Never fold a hand that can't flop the nuts!

Decided to play a bit of 10NL on stars last night with Matt and Isaac..... what a night!

My stars balance at the start of the night was only $2 (all those $4/180s have been killing me!) and so I decided to see how far I could run it up before I went bust. I think I lasted about 4 hands after which I ran AT into 99 and so I asked Isaac if we could do a transfer and so I sent him $50 and he sent me $50 on stars. I have been wanting to get a bit of money on stars so I can play the occasional good value tournament and also I had told Matt that I would play some 10NL with him as he has recently started playing 6max having been a SNG and FR player.

So with $50 in my account we opened up a new table, and Nathan (friend of Matt) also joined us. I had a feeling that this was going to be somewhat reminiscent of a certain late night cash game we played a few weeks ago..... and it sure was. It was clear from the start that neither Isaac or myself ever intended to fold a hand and 3-betting light/calling down with T high became the norm. After about an hour there were about 3 people on the waiting list for our table and given that Isaac was playing 35/30, I was playing 50/45, Nathan was at about 30/25, Matt was at a cool 20/15 and the other 2 players were complete nits.... I wonder who the fish were ;)

Anyway... now for some gems of the night.... I feel bad for Matt who ran really bad.... especially when he ran his AA into my flushdraw (sorry Matt), so I hope last night did not kill his confidence in his game.




Obv Isaac sucks out on me because he runs good..... post hand analysis shows me as a 70% favourite on the turn

PokerStars Game #16418464775: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/04/01 - 18:18:55 (ET)
Table 'Prospero V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 2: cashsnack ($2 in chips)
Seat 3: Guy ($9.60 in chips)
Seat 4: tazg15 ($10.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Isaac ($9.90 in chips)
Isaac: posts small blind $0.05
cashsnack: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Guy [Kc Kh]
Guy: raises $0.30 to $0.40
tazg15: folds
Isaac: calls $0.35
cashsnack: folds
*** FLOP *** [7c 5h Tc]
Isaac: checks
Guy: bets $0.60
Isaac: raises $1.20 to $1.80
Guy: calls $1.20
*** TURN *** [7c 5h Tc] [9c]
Isaac: bets $3.20
Guy: raises $4.20 to $7.40 and is all-in
Isaac: calls $4.20
*** RIVER *** [7c 5h Tc 9c] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Isaac: shows [8d 8c] (three of a kind, Eights)
Guy: mucks hand
Isaac collected $18.35 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $19.30 | Rake $0.95
Board [7c 5h Tc 9c 8s]
Seat 2: cashsnack (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Guy mucked [Kc Kh]
Seat 4: tazg15 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Isaac (small blind) showed [8d 8c] and won ($18.35) with three of a kind, Eights



Bluff raising a 4-straight board...

***** Hand History for Game 16418858379 *****
$10.00 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, April 01, 06:36:28 2008
Table Prospero V (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Matt ( $10.35 )
Seat 2: soldatti ( $10.00 )
Seat 3: Guy ( $11.35 )
Seat 4: plus5 ( $9.70 )
Seat 5: hjtakeuchi ( $13.50 )
Seat 6: Isaac ( $19.15 )
hjtakeuchi posts the small blind [$0.05].
Isaac posts the big blind [$0.10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Guy [ 7h 8d ]
Matt folds
soldatti folds
Guy raises [$0.30]
plus5 folds
hjtakeuchi folds
Isaac calls [$0.20]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, Qs, As ]
Isaac checks
Guy checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
Isaac checks
Guy checks
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
Isaac bets [$0.40]
Guy raises [$1.50]
Isaac folds
Guy wins $1.40 from main pot
Guy wins $1.10 from main pot


I get completely owned by AA

***** Hand History for Game 16419151135 *****
$10.00 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, April 01, 06:49:45 2008
Table Prospero V (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Matt ( $11.15 )
Seat 2: soldatti ( $9.25 )
Seat 3: Guy ( $11.60 )
Seat 4: plus5 ( $10.00 )
Seat 5: hjtakeuchi ( $14.40 )
Seat 6: Isaac ( $18.15 )
hjtakeuchi posts the small blind [$0.05].
Isaac posts the big blind [$0.10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Guy [ Qh Js ]
Matt folds
soldatti folds
Guy raises [$0.40]
plus5 calls [$0.40]
hjtakeuchi folds
Isaac folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, 4s, 2c ]
Guy bets [$0.50]
plus5 calls [$0.50]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7c ]
Guy checks
plus5 bets [$1.00]
Guy calls [$1.00]
** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
Guy bets [$2.50]
plus5 calls [$2.50]
Guy shows [Qh Js ]
plus5 shows [As Ac ]
plus5 wins $8.55 from main pot


Definitely missed a valuebet on this river!

PokerStars Game #16419235351: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/04/01 - 18:53:43 (ET)
Table 'Prospero V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Matt ($11 in chips)
Seat 2: soldatti ($9.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Guy ($10.70 in chips)
Seat 4: plus5 ($14 in chips)
Seat 5: hjtakeuchi ($13.85 in chips)
Seat 6: Isaac ($18.15 in chips)
hjtakeuchi: posts small blind $0.05
Isaac: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Guy [6d 6c]
Matt: folds
soldatti: folds
Guy: raises $0.10 to $0.20
plus5: folds
hjtakeuchi: folds
Isaac: calls $0.10
*** FLOP *** [8h 5s Js]
Isaac: checks
Guy: checks
*** TURN *** [8h 5s Js] [Ks]
Isaac: checks
Guy: checks
*** RIVER *** [8h 5s Js Ks] [7d]
Isaac: checks
Guy: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Isaac: shows [5d 9s] (a pair of Fives)
Guy: shows [6d 6c] (a pair of Sixes)
Guy collected $0.45 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.45 | Rake $0
Board [8h 5s Js Ks 7d]
Seat 1: Matt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: soldatti folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Guy showed [6d 6c] and won ($0.45) with a pair of Sixes
Seat 4: plus5 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: hjtakeuchi (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Isaac (big blind) showed [5d 9s] and lost with a pair of Fives



At this point Nathan entered the game and the 3-betting really started to get going

PokerStars Game #16419618514: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/04/01 - 19:11:30 (ET)
Table 'Prospero V' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Matt ($10.90 in chips)
Seat 3: Guy ($12.30 in chips)
Seat 5: Nathan ($5.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Isaac ($16.25 in chips)
Matt: posts small blind $0.05
Guy: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Guy [7h 2d]
Nathan: raises $0.20 to $0.30
Isaac: folds
Matt: folds
Guy: raises $0.70 to $1
Nathan: folds
Guy collected $0.65 from pot
Guy: shows [7h 2d] (high card Seven)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.65 | Rake $0
Seat 1: Matt (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Guy (big blind) collected ($0.65)
Seat 5: Nathan folded before Flop
Seat 6: Isaac (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


PokerStars Game #16419970339: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/04/01 - 19:28:10 (ET)
Table 'Prospero V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Matt ($10 in chips)
Seat 2: forseti23 ($5.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Guy ($13.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Duffman911 ($2.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Nathan ($6.45 in chips)
Seat 6: Isaac ($18.30 in chips)
forseti23: posts small blind $0.05
Guy: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Guy [2d 9h]
Duffman911: calls $0.10
Nathan: raises $0.20 to $0.30
Isaac: folds
Matt: folds
forseti23: folds
Guy: raises $0.80 to $1.10
Duffman911: folds
Nathan: folds
Guy collected $0.75 from pot
Guy: shows [2d 9h] (high card Nine)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.75 | Rake $0
Seat 1: Matt (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: forseti23 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Guy (big blind) collected ($0.75)
Seat 4: Duffman911 folded before Flop
Seat 5: Nathan folded before Flop
Seat 6: Isaac folded before Flop (didn't bet)


PokerStars Game #16420019712: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/04/01 - 19:30:32 (ET)
Table 'Prospero V' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Matt ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 2: forseti23 ($5.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Guy ($12.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Duffman911 ($4.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Nathan ($6.05 in chips)
Seat 6: Isaac ($18 in chips)
Nathan: posts small blind $0.05
Isaac: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Guy [Ah 5s]
Matt: folds
forseti23: folds
Guy: raises $0.20 to $0.30
Duffman911: folds
Nathan: raises $0.80 to $1.10
Isaac: folds
Guy: raises $1.90 to $3
Nathan: calls $1.90
*** FLOP *** [Qh 9c 7d]
Nathan: bets $3.05 and is all-in
Guy: folds
Nathan collected $5.80 from pot
Nathan: shows [2h 2c] (a pair of Deuces)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.10 | Rake $0.30
Board [Qh 9c 7d]
Seat 1: Matt folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: forseti23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Guy folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Duffman911 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Nathan (small blind) collected ($5.80)
Seat 6: Isaac (big blind) folded before Flop


Me owning Isaac :)

***** Hand History for Game 16420143061 *****
$10.00 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, April 01, 07:36:20 2008
Table Prospero V (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Matt ( $10.00 )
Seat 2: forseti23 ( $5.95 )
Seat 3: Guy ( $10.05 )
Seat 4: Duffman911 ( $3.90 )
Seat 5: Nathan ( $9.50 )
Seat 6: Isaac ( $18.05 )
Duffman911 posts the small blind [$0.05].
Nathan posts the big blind [$0.10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Guy [ 2s 6s ]
Isaac raises [$0.30]
Matt folds
forseti23 folds
Guy calls [$0.30]
Duffman911 folds
Nathan calls [$0.20]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 2c, 2h ]
Nathan checks
Isaac bets [$0.60]
Guy calls [$0.60]
Nathan folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
Isaac checks
Guy checks
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
Isaac checks
Guy bets [$1.00]
Isaac calls [$1.00]
Guy shows [2s 6s ]
Guy wins $3.95 from main pot
Isaac doesn't show [6h 6c ]


This is the unfortunate hand vs Matt where I put him on overcards and expect him to fold to my c/r.... unfortunately he has AA and I manage to hit my outs

PokerStars Game #16420308095: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/04/01 - 19:44:04 (ET)
Table 'Prospero V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Matt ($10.50 in chips)
Seat 2: forseti23 ($6.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Guy ($11.20 in chips)
Seat 4: Kalikat003 ($5.90 in chips)
Seat 5: Nathan ($13.10 in chips)
Seat 6: Isaac ($16.20 in chips)
forseti23: posts small blind $0.05
Guy: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Guy [9h Qh]
Kalikat003: calls $0.10
Nathan: folds
Isaac: folds
Matt: raises $0.30 to $0.40
forseti23: folds
Guy: calls $0.30
Kalikat003: calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [8c 5h 3h]
Guy: checks
Kalikat003: checks
Matt: bets $1
Guy: raises $3 to $4
Kalikat003: folds
Matt: raises $6.10 to $10.10 and is all-in
Guy: calls $6.10
*** TURN *** [8c 5h 3h] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [8c 5h 3h 8h] [Kh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Guy: shows [9h Qh] (a flush, King high)
Matt: mucks hand
Guy collected $20.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21.45 | Rake $1.05
Board [8c 5h 3h 8h Kh]
Seat 1: Matt (button) mucked [Ad As]
Seat 2: forseti23 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Guy (big blind) showed [9h Qh] and won ($20.40) with a flush, King high
Seat 4: Kalikat003 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Nathan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Isaac folded before Flop (didn't bet)


There comes a time in poker where you become too lazy to use the slider and so are reduced to minbets.... and look at that river outdraw... and my 10c bet with the nut low!

***** Hand History for Game 16420737855 *****
$10.00 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, April 01, 08:04:28 2008
Table Prospero V (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Matt ( $10.35 )
Seat 3: Guy ( $22.10 )
Seat 4: rayrns ( $9.90 )
Seat 5: Nathan ( $16.75 )
Seat 6: Isaac ( $15.85 )
Matt posts the small blind [$0.05].
Guy posts the big blind [$0.10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Guy [ 2c 2s ]
rayrns folds
Nathan calls [$0.10]
Isaac calls [$0.10]
Matt calls [$0.05]
Guy raises [$0.10]
Nathan raises [$0.20]
Isaac folds
Matt folds
Guy raises [$0.20]
Nathan calls [$0.10]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3c, Th, 3h ]
Guy bets [$0.10]
Nathan raises [$0.20]
Guy raises [$0.20]
Nathan raises [$0.20]
Guy calls [$0.10]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
Guy bets [$0.10]
Nathan calls [$0.10]
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
Guy bets [$0.10]
Nathan calls [$0.10]
Guy shows [2c 2s ]
Nathan shows [Js Kh ]
Nathan wins $2.10 from main pot



Another gem where I manage a massive outdraw

PokerStars Game #16420781609: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/04/01 - 20:06:33 (ET)
Table 'Prospero V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Matt ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Guy ($21.95 in chips)
Seat 4: rayrns ($9.80 in chips)
Seat 5: Nathan ($17.05 in chips)
Seat 6: Isaac ($15.75 in chips)
rayrns: posts small blind $0.05
Nathan: posts big blind $0.10
Matt98568: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Guy [Jd Kh]
Isaac: raises $0.20 to $0.30
Matt: calls $0.30
Guy: calls $0.30
rayrns: folds
Nathan: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [As Jh 8c]
Nathan: bets $0.10
Isaac: calls $0.10
Matt: calls $0.10
Guy: raises $0.10 to $0.20
Nathan: raises $0.10 to $0.30
Isaac: calls $0.20
Matt: calls $0.20
Guy: calls $0.10
*** TURN *** [As Jh 8c] [8d]
Nathan: checks
Isaac: checks
Matt: checks
Guy: bets $0.10
Nathan: calls $0.10
Isaac: calls $0.10
Matt: calls $0.10
*** RIVER *** [As Jh 8c 8d] [Jc]
Nathan: checks
Isaac: checks
Matt: checks
Guy: bets $1.50
Nathan: folds
Isaac: calls $1.50
Matt: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Guy: shows [Jd Kh] (a full house, Jacks full of Eights)
Isaac: mucks hand
Guy collected $5.60 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.85 | Rake $0.25
Board [As Jh 8c 8d Jc]
Seat 1: Matt folded on the River
Seat 3: Guy (button) showed [Jd Kh] and won ($5.60) with a full house, Jacks full of Eights
Seat 4: rayrns (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Nathan (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 6: Isaac mucked [Qh Qc]


Nathan trying his tricks again

***** Hand History for Game 16421067316 *****
$10.00 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, April 01, 08:20:07 2008
Table Prospero V (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 2: ADUBS23 ( $6.00 )
Seat 3: Guy ( $27.10 )
Seat 4: rayrns ( $16.80 )
Seat 5: Nathan ( $7.25 )
Seat 6: Isaac ( $24.15 )
Nathan posts the small blind [$0.05].
Isaac posts the big blind [$0.10].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Guy [ Jh Ah ]
ADUBS23 folds
Guy raises [$0.30]
rayrns folds
Nathan calls [$0.25]
Isaac calls [$0.20]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 2c, 3d ]
Nathan checks
Isaac checks
Guy bets [$0.40]
Nathan raises [$0.80]
Isaac folds
Guy calls [$0.40]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
Nathan bets [$1.40]
Guy calls [$1.40]
** Dealing River ** [ 8d ]
Nathan checks
Guy checks
Nathan shows [Qs Jd ]
Guy shows [Jh Ah ]
Guy wins $5.05 from main pot



Isaac makes an attempt to steal this pot (was calling a shove btw) :)

PokerStars Game #16421168045: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/04/01 - 20:24:52 (ET)
Table 'Prospero V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: ArlBsch ($19.15 in chips)
Seat 2: ADUBS23 ($5.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Guy ($18.75 in chips)
Seat 4: rayrns ($16.65 in chips)
Seat 5: Nathan ($5.70 in chips)
Seat 6: Isaac ($32.75 in chips)
Isaac: posts small blind $0.05
ArlBsch: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Guy [Th Kc]
ADUBS23: calls $0.10
Guy: raises $0.30 to $0.40
rayrns: folds
Nathan: folds
Isaac: folds
ArlBsch: folds
ADUBS23: calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [6c 4d 6h]
ADUBS23: checks
Guy: bets $0.50
ADUBS23: calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [6c 4d 6h] [Qc]
ADUBS23: checks
Guy: bets $1.20
ADUBS23: calls $1.20
*** RIVER *** [6c 4d 6h Qc] [Qh]
ADUBS23: bets $1
Guy: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ADUBS23: shows [7d 5d] (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
Guy: shows [Th Kc] (two pair, Queens and Sixes - King kicker)
Guy collected $6.05 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.35 | Rake $0.30
Board [6c 4d 6h Qc Qh]
Seat 1: ArlBsch (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ADUBS23 showed [7d 5d] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 3: Guy showed [Th Kc] and won ($6.05) with two pair, Queens and Sixes
Seat 4: rayrns folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Nathan (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Isaac (small blind) folded before Flop





And the grand finale.....

This is why you should never EVER fold preflop!!!!!

PokerStars Game #16420249983: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/04/01 - 19:41:21 (ET)
Table 'Prospero V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Matt ($10 in chips)
Seat 2: forseti23 ($7 in chips)
Seat 3: Guy ($11.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Nathan ($9.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Isaac ($16.35 in chips)
Nathan: posts small blind $0.05
Isaac: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Guy [Qh Td]
Matt: raises $0.20 to $0.30
forseti23: calls $0.30
Guy: calls $0.30
Nathan: raises $1.20 to $1.50
Isaac: folds
Matt: calls $1.20
forseti23: folds
Guy: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qd Tc Qc]
Nathan: checks
Matt: bets $2
Nathan: calls $2
*** TURN *** [Qd Tc Qc] [4d]
Nathan: checks
Matt: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qd Tc Qc 4d] [Jh]
Nathan: checks
Matt: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Nathan: shows [Ks Kh] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
Matt: mucks hand
Nathan collected $7.35 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.70 | Rake $0.35
Board [Qd Tc Qc 4d Jh]
Seat 1: Matt mucked [8d 8h]
Seat 2: forseti23 folded before Flop
Seat 3: Guy (button) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Nathan (small blind) showed [Ks Kh] and won ($7.35) with two pair, Kings and Queens
Seat 6: Isaac (big blind) folded before Flop